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    • CommentAuthorohkus
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008 edited
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    SliceHost
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    BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht.1)
    System -- Linux sparta.dillio.net 2.6.18-xen #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 06:40:50 UTC 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    /dev/sda1 9805144 3825344 5481728 42% /

    Start Benchmark Run: Tue Jun 17 16:00:53 EDT 2008
    16:00:53 up 36 days, 23:01, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

    End Benchmark Run: Tue Jun 17 16:11:41 EDT 2008
    16:11:42 up 36 days, 23:12, 2 users, load average: 14.76, 6.36, 2.82


    INDEX VALUES
    TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX

    Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 9345690.3 248.0
    Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 2060.5 248.0
    Execl Throughput 188.3 1385.8 73.6
    File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 47061.0 176.1
    File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 15932.0 147.9
    File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 390576.0 253.9
    Pipe Throughput 111814.6 499706.2 44.7
    Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 118041.6 76.4
    Process Creation 569.3 2205.0 38.7
    Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 410.5 91.6
    System Call Overhead 114433.5 421841.5 36.9
    =========
    FINAL SCORE 102.7



    Linode
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    BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht.1)
    System -- Linux rome.dillio.net 2.6.18.8-domU-linode7 #1 SMP Mon Feb 11 13:45:54 EST 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
    /dev/xvda 11936416 1897552 10038864 16% /

    Start Benchmark Run: Tue Jun 17 16:00:30 EDT 2008
    16:00:30 up 12:46, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

    End Benchmark Run: Tue Jun 17 16:10:43 EDT 2008
    16:10:43 up 12:56, 1 user, load average: 14.29, 6.09, 2.66


    INDEX VALUES
    TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX

    Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 38725011.7 1027.8
    Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 1992.8 239.8
    Execl Throughput 188.3 3079.5 163.5
    File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 132814.0 497.1
    File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 37258.0 345.9
    File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 1219939.0 793.1
    Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 361016.5 233.7
    Pipe Throughput 111814.6 2418718.5 216.3
    Process Creation 569.3 4223.0 74.2
    Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 965.7 215.6
    System Call Overhead 114433.5 1959239.5 171.2
    =========
    FINAL SCORE 277.8

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    Either the host node are setup differently to manage performance or Linode is just using better hardware hands down....This can also play out opteron (slicehost) vs xeon (linode). Just to be fair the linode vps gets a little more ram as well.
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      CommentAuthordavidshq
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008
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    I hadn't heard of linode before. Very nice services - very similar to Slicehost it seems in approach etc. Couple other comparative notes:
    - RAM difference is somewhat significant. Slicehost includes 256 MB, Linode is 360 (106 MB difference).
    - Linode offers twice the bandwidth of Slicehost (100 GB vs. 200 GB).
    - Linode offers slightly more disk storage than Slicehost (10 GB vs. 12 GB).
    Any thoughts Slicehost admins.? Seems like they are marketing almost exactly against you guys.
    David.
    • CommentAuthorohkus
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008
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    If you look a lot of this win was in the processor and you can see why:

    SliceHost
    [root@sparta unixbench-4.1.0-wht-1]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
    processor : 0
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 65
    model name : Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212
    stepping : 2
    cpu MHz : 2010.300
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 1
    core id : 1
    cpu cores : 1
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy
    bogomips : 4031.05
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

    processor : 1
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 65
    model name : Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212
    stepping : 2
    cpu MHz : 2010.300
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 1
    core id : 1
    cpu cores : 1
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy
    bogomips : 4031.05
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

    processor : 2
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 65
    model name : Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212
    stepping : 2
    cpu MHz : 2010.300
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 1
    core id : 1
    cpu cores : 1
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy
    bogomips : 4031.05
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

    processor : 3
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 65
    model name : Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212
    stepping : 2
    cpu MHz : 2010.300
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 1
    core id : 1
    cpu cores : 1
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy
    bogomips : 4031.05
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc








    Linode
    [root@rome unixbench-4.1.0-wht-1]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
    processor : 0
    vendor_id : GenuineIntel
    cpu family : 6
    model : 23
    model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5420 @ 2.50GHz
    stepping : 6
    cpu MHz : 2500.088
    cache size : 6144 KB
    fdiv_bug : no
    hlt_bug : no
    f00f_bug : no
    coma_bug : no
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 10
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu de tsc msr pae cx8 apic cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc pni
    bogomips : 5007.44

    processor : 1
    vendor_id : GenuineIntel
    cpu family : 6
    model : 23
    model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5420 @ 2.50GHz
    stepping : 6
    cpu MHz : 2500.088
    cache size : 6144 KB
    fdiv_bug : no
    hlt_bug : no
    f00f_bug : no
    coma_bug : no
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 10
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu de tsc msr pae cx8 apic cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc pni
    bogomips : 5007.44

    processor : 2
    vendor_id : GenuineIntel
    cpu family : 6
    model : 23
    model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5420 @ 2.50GHz
    stepping : 6
    cpu MHz : 2500.088
    cache size : 6144 KB
    fdiv_bug : no
    hlt_bug : no
    f00f_bug : no
    coma_bug : no
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 10
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu de tsc msr pae cx8 apic cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc pni
    bogomips : 5007.44

    processor : 3
    vendor_id : GenuineIntel
    cpu family : 6
    model : 23
    model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5420 @ 2.50GHz
    stepping : 6
    cpu MHz : 2500.088
    cache size : 6144 KB
    fdiv_bug : no
    hlt_bug : no
    f00f_bug : no
    coma_bug : no
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 10
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu de tsc msr pae cx8 apic cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht nx constant_tsc pni
    bogomips : 5007.44
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      CommentAuthordavidshq
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008
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    Yeah, I see....Not a big fan of the AMD, at least the recent stuff.
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      CommentAuthorjason
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008
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    You will see quite a bit of variability around cpu on those types of tests, since other slices can drastically impact the results. If there are no slices doing much of anything you could end up with a test run that uses close to 400% of 400% available processing power. On the server your test slice is on Ross, it appears that at least 2 slices are very active with cpu which would cut down the ceiling of burstability by a factor of 3 (given that all three slices in question are 256, you could expect to be able to burst to approximately 133%).
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      CommentAuthordavidshq
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008
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    noted one other advantage for linode from a simple featureset - they offer both internal and external ips and don't charge for internal ip usage....though one disadvantage is that you need to use a VPN as their internal are not segmented from other customer's internal...which adds encryption overhead.
    david.
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    • CommentAuthorartagesw
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008
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    These types of tests are difficult to use as a basis of comparison with VPS’s that can burst. For example, you may have been the only customer on the Linode server, which means you effectively had use of the entire physical server. If you repeat that test in a few months time, you could see dramatically different results.

    I have heard good things about Linode. They have been around longer than Slicehost, but only recently began using Xen in production – so I feel that Slicehost is the more experienced Xen host of the two. Looking over Linode’s new Xen-based offerings, I don’t see anything that would compel me to switch.

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      CommentAuthorkwilson
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008
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    I've got a Linode VPS and just added a second one this morning. I'm not doing anything particularly resource-intensive, so I can't really comment on performance, but the uptime and management tools are great.
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      CommentAuthorsesser
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2008
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    Numbers don't really mean much to me. As long as my slice performs at a level I am comfortable with, I don't care what the numbers look like. If my slice starts getting more traffic and I notice a degradation in performance, it's either time to upgrade to a larger slice or dedicated server. Slice has been great for my needs and by far out performs my old shared host. I'm not trying to pump up Slice or put down Linode, just tossing in my two cents.

    • CommentAuthorfactor
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2008
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    FWIW, I've looked at Linode, and one of the main reasons I've stuck with Slicehost is the awesome full-slice backup support. Linode doesn't seem to offer anything comparable, short of manually duplicating disk images.

    The other main reason is the awesome service and support that I've seen from Slicehost. Keep up the great work, guys. :)
    • CommentAuthorwcoolnet
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2008
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    I would agree that a benchmark like this does not give any valuable information. A lot of times the first limiting factor on a server will be the available ram. Slicehost also happens to offer larger ram options than linode.

    It is good to see more competition. It gives me more options to diversify. What happened at ThePlanet could happend to anyone. I personally really like the cheaper bandwidth rates that linode is offering and may have to use them for some transfer intensive projects in the future.
    • CommentAuthordennyhalim
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008
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    linode is selling vps long before vz/xen exist.
    only one thing make me choose slice than linode is raid 10 vs raid 1.
    otherwise, i already take linode...
    • CommentAuthordennyhalim
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008 edited
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    another thing.
    linode gives out a lot of free upgrade, seem at least once a year you get 10% more ram or 20% more space or 30% more bandwidth etc... etc...
    http://blog.linode.com/category/upgrades/
    • CommentAuthormanofsteel
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2008
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    There are lots of great VPS providers out there. I made my choice just like I choose people I work with, by word of mouth. That means Slicehost has built a great community. Not saying that Linode doesn't, but they don't get as much word of mouth love in my networks. However, one reason why might have been that they only recently switched to Zen. Before they made that switch I didn't even look at them.
    • CommentAuthoruniden9
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2008
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    I have used both providers and one thing I don't like about linode, it feels like roulet when picking your datacenter. The Atlanta sites seems to be have more than its fair share of network issues, though they claim to be fixing this sites issue. I know some of these are circumstances that may be out of there control. I also am not a big fan of how they load all modules into the kernel. You can still load modules, but nearly every base modules is loaded, whether you need it or not. But the notable plus is they do not have a hardcap on max bandwidth on the nics. The management interface is also top notch as well. But with that said slicehost sells a great vps and easily meets or exceeds linode in most areas, in my opinion.

    Justin
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    • CommentAuthorsdotsen
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2008
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    I have a slice and linode account. Here's what I like about both.

    Slice - Everything is simple, from the website to the management console. I *love* the ajax console and have used it numerous times when my slice was acting up. It (blog, forums, wiki) feels like a community, whereas linode feels more like a public forum.

    Linode - Great prices and hardware. I love the fact that transfer between vps nodes dont go against your bandwidth count. Granted they dont offer backups, but I backup to my amazon s3 account. I can get more resources for less compared to slice but dont forget, you get what you pay for. Not saying linode is bad but just dont pick a provider based on pricing.
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      CommentAuthorMichaelT
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2008
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    I am loyal to Slicehost purely for the amazing second to none support and service. I remember sending a support ticket for the most stupid thing and Jason treated me seriously. :)

    Hey – the hardware is good to too.

    • CommentAuthorTJ
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2008 edited
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    I never had an account with linode and I don't plan to for the time being but I figured I'd chime in.

    The thing is... I've been with SliceHost for over 9 months now and that's the longest I've been with any hosting provider (less a very cheap hosting provider where I basically just point inactive domains to [so I don't link my slice IPs with them and have an easy way to just put up a robots.txt]) and I've enjoyed basically every minute of it.

    The only "bad stuff" that has happened to me here in 9 months is ~2 hours of slice unavailability (prior to STL-B being set up, when Datotel was getting flooded and not noticing or something) and 1 case of the machine on which I have a slice on being reset because it had hanged. That's it. That's really just plain fabulous for a 9 month period.

    The things I hope never to see from SliceHost: A decline in service and quality of service, PRish "Let's give the cheapskates some upgrades just to keep them here", or the creation of so many different mix and match product options that you would need to actually read and fully comprehend 5-10 pages of descriptions to actually understand what in tarnations you actually need and what you're getting in to.

    The only things I really want to see from SliceHost: Improved account security (really, at least email confirmation requests BEFORE any SliceManager action is completed), a European data center (Frankfurt seems to be a pretty big Internet node in this part of the planet) and keeping up the good work.
    • CommentAuthorelsid
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2008
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    I've been wondering why my slice seems to be out performed by my media temple vps with similar specs and a plesk hog . Is slicehost planning to upgrade to better processors anytime in the near future?
    • CommentAuthorohkus
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2008
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    Guys....as the thread starter let me clarify something here. I use both companies mostly for redundancy and both are absolutely great to deal with. Neither one is better than the other in any way. Both have different strengths and more experience in certain areas.